Organized Religion
In my opinion, organized religion divides more ofen than it unites. And those who worship, have fought more wars in Jesus' name, alone, totally interpreted to fill each individual's empty needless needs. So many individuals misinterpret Jesus's message, it becomes about their egos and the interpretation of their ego's perceptions, projections, what words did Jesus speak, that makes it so confusing to so many. As for his birth, I like to believe that Jesus is an incarnation of The Buddha, far from being a God, he was a human man who reached total awakening, understanding, filled with compassion, he reached enlightenment and though he'd have rathered go into the wilderness with his enlightenment, for the betterment of humanity, he walked with his three robes and a single alms bowl, trusting in each person to give to him, usually forsaking many, for all humanity's sake. I don't know how they do it, but people twist clearly simple words, as for their reason of their imagination's creation of what they've created and chosen for themselves. Fighting wars, dividing humanity, when both men taught that we are all one, that all species of living beings, looking down from far up in the universe, appear simply as, "one", inhabiting a planet that gives them life, that they prefer to not care for, letting species after species, even parts of the planet, simply deflate, after all species have taken the way of extinction, destined to exist only in zoos and nature parks. The costs of what are called, "Designer Dogs" these days cost enormous amounts, ridiculous prices, when, in reality, they are just creating mutts with fancy names at unfairly, unreasonable, high costs. To me, these people care less about their dogs, than how much money they can get for each one. Greed and the Ego, let lose as destruction, seperation in a world of supposed, "One Love" created by a loving entity. But as the teachings were passed on, they became diluted, and twisted by way too many. Buddha, Jesus, Moses, etc. all must be so diappointed in what they see happening as the planet spins on it's axis. We need more compassionate listeners, and less who've selcted themselves, as The Ones, the only ones preaching and teaching words that were not once ever muttered, but concidered, sacred, we were taught to believe they all were the only ones blessed with all the answers, fooling only themselves and those with unfulfilled needs being called to each teacher, rabbi, guru, rinpoche, anyone with supposed knowledge, who can see rright thru you, but you're too busy to listen when your name's been called to come to the alter.
Yours With Compassion,
waterwriter
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I disagree with you. Jesus was God manifested in the flesh. He was in the world but the world knew him not, like the Bible says. If you can't believe God came then doing miracles, how would you believe if came today and did miracles? Jesus Christ is the only way to the father and the Holy Ghost. And Jesus Christ is all three, the father, the son and the Holy Ghost. There aren't three different beings, theres only one God. And as far as egos go it's just an excuse not to accept the fact that we are sinners and there's a big difference between a sinner and a saint. There's a big difference between living worldly and living holy and if you try to live both you won't make it inside heaven's gates. I know it's tough to take it all in but I'd whether know the truth then a lie. You have to be baptised in the name of Jesus and repent of your sins until your filled with the Holy Ghost which will cause you to speak with another Tongues. Being told you can be save and go heaven any other way is a lie because that's the way it says in the Bible.
Of course, you are entitled to believe what you choose to, but to me, the story of Jesus being the Son of God, is more like a nice, children's story, no offense meant in the least, that's just how I choose to see it. And I stick to my words. To me, religion divides more than it unites, and if Jesus knew of all the deaths from needless wars fought in His name, I think His spirit would be deeply wounded, beyond saying or predicting anything, see that humanity never heard a word he said. And if they did, indeed hear those words, too many were misinterpreted.
The same goes to The Awakened One, the human being that was, The Buddha. An amazing human being whose meditations, I believe led him to enlightenment. Buddhism is far from a religion to me, than it is a guide as to how to live my life, so that, I, too, may one day become enlightened, as well. As for the bible, I have no idea what you're talking about because I don't read or refer to it, seeing it more as a biography, passed on for so many years, by mouth, and you know how the game of, "telephone" goes, it is far from accurate. And whatever intepretation each one's imagination creates as perception, which leads to projection, that individuals pick and choose the parts that seem, or feel, more real, therefore, more comforting. To me, believing that some man-made creation that, as long as THEIR God is with them, they are protected, alone are blessed, does not speak of the wishes for the best when it comes to others.
So, I say most sincerely, May you be safe from danger, have as little sorrow as life allows, May you know joyfulness, go to bed happy, and truly know peace. Om mani padme hum.
Yours With Compassion,
waterwriter
I was baptised at a church when I was 15 they spoke in different tonques, but not everybody does it, Each one must follow his own path to enlightenment, there are so many religions out there, I prefer the one that excepts me for thy gifts, of knowing like midwifery although that I am not, I prefer acceptance an love, an it feels better then home. I like seeing churches who help people when in need, but I have seen people go every week to be forgiven for the same thing they did the week before, God helps those you help themselves, not lets go do something wrong an dont worry its alright cause that will not count against you its like putting Jesus on the cross over an over again.
And what about the Prophets not mentioned in the bible before Jesus, before Moses, study look at them all before ou decide, none of us can cast that stone an say its not true, reason I chose Muslin is I felt thy life thru thy scriptures, saw the answers to thy dreams, it fulfilled a need of the knowing sorry part Gypsy, but not a pagan,. I have been a catholic it didn't fulfill what I was searching for, been a Christian too every church you go to whereever you move to expect you to be baptised all over again, even though you were of that religion I was Mormon once too, but as a child during High School.
Everyone has a right to there opinion, just none of us can cast that stone an say it isnt just so.
You misinterpreted my words. I did not, nor do I need to throw stones at anyone. It goes against my belief system. If you could misinterpret my words, than, to me, you're capable of misintepreting the words written in your bible. I merely expressed my beliefs and thoughts. And although you had the nerve to out and out tell me that I am wrong, only intensifies my beliefs. In no place or way did I tell anyone that they were wrong and not entitled to believe what they choose to. I've learned much from these responses, the tones they were written in, all of which only helps, in my mind, to make what I wrote, truer than any response I received in particular.
There was no Christianity in Jesus' lifetime. He was a married, Jewish rabbi, who, as far as I'm concerned, preached what was needed, and tho many listened to His words as He spoke them, the centuries of people who were not blessed to hear with their own ears, what he preached, has molded, year after passing year, into those who either misintepreted, twisted, or chose to believe the story as it was contordedly told. I did not suggest anyone turn to Buddhism because I believe we are ALL entitled to believe what we choose to. There are just so many choices, I can't help but wonder how we'll be able to clearly see, there are no divisions, we are all one. I wish you the best in your search, and can only wish that you will find, whatever it is you're looking for and know the feeling that is joy, happiness and filled with peace. I wish you only the best.
Yours With Compassion,
waterwriter
Sorry waterwriter I understand what you are saying no offence intended.......sorry forgot a word in there.
Ok I want to respond to you waterwriter as well as to GlowingIdols. I never said what you belief is a lie I just said I disagreed with what you were saying and I myself do not believe that. Before Jesus came prophesied in the Bible that we would he come. The Christian label holds no authority over Jesus Christ because he is above it as well as any other word past or future. When it comes to being Holy Jesus is the answer. You keep talking about how Jesus was just another person and his story is fairytale but I don't know to many fairytale stories that ends a man being crucified for the sins of the world. Nor a man walking on water, healing the sick, raising the dead, or any the other miracles that Jesus did many of which the Bible doesn't even mention. Jesus knew he had to die for the sins of the world and even though he was and is God he didn't want to suffer that way but he did it anyways because he so loved the world and he still does he just hates sin. If Adam and Eve never sinned we most likely wouldn't be having this conversation. So we as people can't blame anybody but ourselves. We are the seeds of Adam and Eve and likewise we carry their curses having been born into to sin. I'm not judging anybody I'm just saying that we need to admit that were in sin and this world is a sinful world while accepting the truth about how it all came about and not lies that people makeup and create so that they have their own Bible and belief their own thoughts. Because at the end of the day we'll all have to come before Jesus, like it or not and be judged according to our own lives. I don't know about you two but I want to see a happy Jesus and I want to spend my eternity in heaven.
In response to you Glowingldols the Bible states once your filled with the Holy Ghost you will speak with another tongues. It's not some do some don't. It's you don't have the Holy Ghost until the speak gives you utterance which is speaking with tongues.
Enough already, with Jesus. I can see how, so many wars were fought in His name! Geez, people, I'm entitled to my own beliefs, and have the right to express them. I never intended to offend , only to express my feelings and thoughts. I had no idea there were so many, super- sensitive people, who are so into Jesus, so quick to defend Him and His name in His name. If you believe he is all-powerful, you really don't have to deal with another's opinions, thoughts or beliefs. I believe He is perfectly able to stand up for Himself, as He had compassion, kindness, an open heart and mind, none of which all who responded, in His name, seem to have, not even an inkling, of any of it. Makes me wonder if you even know the commitment and definition behind those words, because no one who replied, seems to me, to comprehend what I'm saying. And in case you all didn't notice, I capitalized words having to do with Him (like I just did) out of respect, because I believe we are all entitled to believe in whatever we choose to. As the song goes, "whatever gets you through the night".
I will not be responding to any messages sent regarding Jesus, I'm really not interested in receiving angry messages just because I expressed myself, so don't bother writing to me about this topic.
I mean, can we please let this all go now? Positive energy is more empowering than, angry, negative energy. Makes for a nicer, better life. Whether you are Catholic, Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Zen Buddhist, Tibetan Buddhist, Protestant, Muslim, whatever you believe, you have the right to. You do not have the right to send messages, to attempt to inforce your beliefs upon, and attacking another. If your spiritual, that's great, no matter what you choose to believe. Come on, everybody, if you are truly a spiritual person, you'll let this be the last of it. It is for me, anyway, so don't waste your energy, writing about how, "wrong" I am to be spiritual, in my way. It's make for a much better world to live in.
Yours With Compassion,
Lin
I didn't send anything anrgy i said i was sorry for misunderstanding you.. Yes i know he died on the cross blessed is he an all thy Prophets that were there in that era. Touchy subject, all have the right to express themselves, so lets do so calmly as Jesus or God Blessed are they would have us do.
But only 2 religions I felt a closeness too, the Christian an Muslim, although I do not speak in tonques I felt closer to them, as I did when I read the Book of thy Prophet Mohammad Blessed is he. So I am torned between the too, since I havent spoken in tongue, I chose Muslim for I felt what was writtened an wept, felt his saddness, sorrow an happiness, as words written I feel more then words spoken....
But now after a conversation I had earlier with a doctor from another Country, Allah is God, God is Allah, yet we all believe in God an the Almighty God, I go back to thine old faith that excepted my gifts, Christian-Baptist, they did not judge me or ask me silly questons about there self interests. Or tell me that God wouldn't speak to me, for he has spoken loud enough for me to jump out of thy bed as I don't hear him from within, an I know that my Spirit within loves a sunnah Spirit within as this has come to pass, but I shall follow the path I choose, an keep on believing in God Blessed is he an the Almighty Blessed is he.
I see where everyone is coming from here. Its perspective that gets you back to the Source. What waterwaiter is stating is that she does not understand why organized religions seem to go to war. Rather the deeper question would be where is your understanding on perspective. Everyone on here has different views. I suggest the book "The Path Of Perfection". It studies on the celestial soul, the ego, and the super ego. It talks about respect for the times that we are in "era" and such. Its by Ostad Elahi.
I stated what I believe and I was just trying to help. You right we don't have to defend Jesus because he knows our every thoughts but if you defend Jesus he will defend you. The only book you should read when it comes to this subject is the Bible. Like I said before I need to get right myself. I hope you find the answers you seek waterwriter and I write this with love not hate.
Annie Rice left Christianity due to all the miconceptions an arguements she prays at home as I do, an I read online what I eed to rather then go to church a hear what people say an the minister says same old stuff but i see people going an getting resaved for same thing they done the week before, how many times must he die till they learn the mistake should not be made again, religion today is so sad, to many things happening not right not in any commandment I have read, I have read many since i was 15. I am not even allowed to wear a veil, hubby forbids it as do thy daughters reason birthday was so upsetting then they wish me Happy Birthday LOL, I do not except it, forgive I must but hurt mr they did, I am forbidden to believe in what I chose to believe in, so much for freedom to choose what religion you want to be a part of, is what I always tell my kids I don't force tem into one its there choosing why must they force me to give up what i m happy with in choosing.................